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Listen back to features and interviews from 95bFM's daily news and current affairs show. Joel Armstrong, Castor Chacko, Oto Sequeira, and Caeden Tipler focus on the issues of Tāmaki Makaurau and elsewhere in independent-thinking bFM style. Monday-Thursday 12-1pm on 95bFM.

New Zealand’s relations with China and the United States w/ Associate Professor in Politics and International relations, Stephen Noakes: 23rd July 2024

New Zealand’s relations with China and the United States w/ Associate Professor in Politics and International relations, Stephen Noakes: 23rd July 2024 New Zealand’s relations with China and the United States w/ Associate Professor in Politics and International relations, Stephen Noakes: 23rd July 2024, 6.91 MB
Tue 23 Jul 2024

During Prime Minister Christopher Luxon’s visit to the United States, he spoke to several leaders and figures about New Zealand’s relationship with the country. Particularly, he spoke about further aligning and the potential for Aotearoa to join AUKUS. 

In response, former Prime Minister Helen Clark and her political rival Don Brash released statements criticising the move, particularly for its potential impact on Aotearoa’s relationship with China.  

Wire host Castor spoke to Associate Professor in Politics and International Relations at the University of Auckland and Director of the China Studies Centre in the New Zealand Asia Institute, Stephen Noakes, about Aotearoa’s relationship with each of these countries, their value, and how it can be preserved moving forward.

The Wire w/ Castor: 23rd July, 2024

The Wire w/ Castor: 23rd July, 2024 The Wire w/ Castor: 23rd July, 2024, 109.92 MB
Tue 23 Jul 2024

This week on The Wire...

For Dear Science this week, we chatted to Professor Allan Blackman about plants not holding as much carbon as previously thought, low pressure making tea taste worse, and a giant millipede that was thought to be extinct. 

In our weekly catchup with the National Party, Wire host Castor spoke to MP Katie Nimon about the abuse in state care inquiry and the government’s recent instructions to Pharmac. 

He also talked to Associate Professor of Politics and International relations, Stephen Noakes, about New Zealand’s relationship with China. 

And he spoke to Professor Janet Hoek from the University of Otago about the implications of reducing the excise tax on Heated Tobacco Products. 

And producer Josef spoke to Professor Emeritus Ralph Sims about the newly released draft of the second emissions reduction plan.

Excise tax reduction on Heated Tobacco Products w/ Professor of Public Health at the University of Otago, Janet Hoek: 23rd July, 2024

Excise tax reduction on Heated Tobacco Products w/ Professor of Public Health at the University of Otago, Janet Hoek: 23rd July, 2024 Excise tax reduction on Heated Tobacco Products w/ Professor of Public Health at the University of Otago, Janet Hoek: 23rd July, 2024 , 5 MB
Tue 23 Jul 2024

On July 1st, the excise tax on heated tobacco products (or HTPs) was dropped unannounced by fifty percent. 

Speaking on the change, Associate Health Minister Casey Costello sez the reduction will help the government test the effectiveness of HTPs as a tool to help people quit smoking. 

However, given Costello’s previous parroting of tobacco industry talking points, there are worries that this change could also be coming from industry backed research. In addition, the scientific research to support the use of HTPs is slim to nonexistent. 

Wire host Castor to professor of public health at the University of Otago and co-director of the Aspire Aotearoa Research Centre, Janet Hoek, about heated tobacco products and the evidence to support them.

Government’s instructions for Pharmac w/ University of Auckland’s Professor Paula Lorgelly: 22nd July, 2024

Government’s instructions for Pharmac w/ University of Auckland’s Professor Paula Lorgelly: 22nd July, 2024 Government’s instructions for Pharmac w/ University of Auckland’s Professor Paula Lorgelly: 22nd July, 2024 , 5.56 MB
Mon 22 Jul 2024

Last week, Associate Health Minister David Seymour released his letter to Pharmac setting out his expectations for the agency. 

Among the instructions, Seymour has received backlash over saying that it is inappropriate for Pharmac to keep considering Te Tiriti o Waitangi in its decisions.

As a result, on Friday a Pharmac director, Dr Anthony Jordan, resigned saying he “could not with good conscience” work for Pharmac following directions to stop considering Te Tiriti o Waitangi in its decisions. 

On Friday, Wire host Sofia Roger Williams spoke to professor of health economics in the Faculty of Medical and Health Sciences at the University of Auckland, Paula Lorgelly, about these instructions delivered by Seymour to Pharmac and Dr Anthony Jordan’s resignation.

She began the interview asking her for an outline of what the key points of the instructions were.

Joe Biden steps out of the US Presidential election race w/ the University of Otago's Geoffrey Miller: 22 July, 2024

Joe Biden steps out of the US Presidential election race w/ the University of Otago's Geoffrey Miller: 22 July, 2024 Joe Biden steps out of the US Presidential election race w/ the University of Otago's Geoffrey Miller: 22 July, 2024, 26.18 MB
Mon 22 Jul 2024

In breaking news early this morning, President Joe Biden stepped down as the democratic candidate in the election race. It comes following mounting concern around Biden’s age and competence to serve another term as President, as well as a campaign from the party itself for the President to step back. 

Now, only three and half months out from election day the democrats must pick a new candidate, likely to be Vice-President, Kamala Harris. 

Producer Evie spoke to Geopolitical Analyst from the University of Otago, Geoffrey Miller, about what happens next and what effect this will have on the democrats chances of staying in office. We also talk about what impact the result of the election will have here in Aotearoa, as well as on the ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and Palestine.

 

Can the courts measure mana? w/ University of Canterbury’s Rachael Evans: 22nd July, 2024

Can the courts measure mana? w/ University of Canterbury’s Rachael Evans: 22nd July, 2024 Can the courts measure mana? w/ University of Canterbury’s Rachael Evans: 22nd July, 2024, 10.15 MB
Mon 22 Jul 2024

In 2022, the Supreme Court used the idea of damage to a person’s mana to overturn Peter Ellis’ historic convictions for child sexual abuse. 

In two more recent cases – Green v Police, and Sweeney v Prison Manager of Spring Hill Corrections Facility – the courts too engaged with the concept of mana. 

Wire host Sofia Roger Williams spoke to lecturer at the University of Canterbury’s Faculty of Law, Rachael Evans (Ngāti Tama, Ngāti Pamoana), about the significance of the precedents they set and how the courts have measured mana.

She began the interview asking her about these cases and how each of them engaged with the concept of mana.

Shane Jones’ undeclared meeting with mining companies about the Fast-Track Approvals Bill w/ Communities Against the Fast-Track’s Augusta Macassey-Pickard: 22nd July, 2024

Shane Jones’ undeclared meeting with mining companies about the Fast-Track Approvals Bill w/ Communities Against the Fast-Track’s Augusta Macassey-Pickard: 22nd July, 2024 Shane Jones’ undeclared meeting with mining companies about the Fast-Track Approvals Bill w/ Communities Against the Fast-Track’s Augusta Macassey-Pickard: 22nd July, 2024, 5.87 MB
Mon 22 Jul 2024

An Official Information Act request reported on last week by Newsroom revealed Minister for Resources Shane Jones obscured the nature of an undeclared meeting with multiple mining companies about the Fast-Track Approvals process in February. 

Initially, Jones told Newsroom the dinner was a “last minute thing”, however he corrected the record the following day saying the dinner was arranged in advance with two other participants. 

In response, Communities Against the Fast-Track, a coalition of communities, groups and other individual community organisers, have called for Prime Minister Christopher Luxon to remove Jones from his portfolio.

Wire host Sofia Roger Williams spoke to spokesperson for Communities Against the Fast-Track, Augusta Macassey-Pickard, about this, starting the interview asking her how concerned she and the Communities Against the Fast-Track groups were about this behaviour. 

Considering AI in the Fair Digital News Bargaining Bill w/ Senior Lecturer at AUT, Merja Myllylahti: 22nd July, 2024

Considering AI in the Fair Digital News Bargaining Bill w/ Senior Lecturer at AUT, Merja Myllylahti: 22nd July, 2024 Considering AI in the Fair Digital News Bargaining Bill w/ Senior Lecturer at AUT, Merja Myllylahti: 22nd July, 2024, 8.1 MB
Mon 22 Jul 2024

The government has decided to leave AI considerations out of its plans to revive the previous government’s Fair Digital News Bargaining Bill, saying the “broad issue of AI” would be considered later. 

However, there is increasing evidence that new generative AI internet search tools provided by OpenAI, Microsoft, and Google can increase the risk of returning misleading, false, or partially correct information. 

Research by senior Lecturer in Screen, Audio and Journalism at AUT, Merja Myllylahti, looks further into this and how search functions and chatbots shape news discovery. 

Wire host Sofia Roger Williams spoke to Merja about the Fair Digital News Bargaining Bill and the risks of AI chatbots using news content.

The Wire w/ Sofia: 22nd July, 2024

The Wire w/ Sofia: 22nd July, 2024 The Wire w/ Sofia: 22nd July, 2024, 111.17 MB
Mon 22 Jul 2024

Producer Evie speaks to the ACT Party’s Simon Court about the government’s expectations for Pharmac in light of one of the directors stepping down.

Wire host Sofia speaks to Professor of health economics in the Faculty of Medical and Health Sciences at the University of Auckland, Paula Lorgelly, about last week’s announced instructions for Pharmac. 

She also speaks to Senior Lecturer in Screen, Audio and Journalism at AUT, Merja Myllylahti, about AI and New Zealand news in light of the Fair Digital News Bargaining Bill.

Evie also speaks to Geopolitical Analyst from the University of Otago, Geoffrey Miller, about Joe Biden’s recent decision to end his re-election campaign.

Sofia speaks to spokesperson for Communities Against the Fast-Track, Augusta Macassey-Pickard, about Minister for Resources Shane Jones’ undeclared meeting with mining companies about the fast-track

And she also speaks to Lecturer at the University of Canterbury Faculty of Law, Rachael Evans, about courts using mana in judgements. 

The situation two years on from the overturning of Roe v Wade w/ University of Auckland’s Liz Beddoe: July 18, 2024

The situation two years on from the overturning of Roe v Wade w/ University of Auckland’s Liz Beddoe: July 18, 2024 The situation two years on from the overturning of Roe v Wade w/ University of Auckland’s Liz Beddoe: July 18, 2024, 11.56 MB
Fri 19 Jul 2024

It has been two years since the Supreme Court of the United States decision to overturn Roe v Wade. This effectively reversed a recognised constitutional right for Abortion in the United States, paving the way for states to set up bans.

Wire Host Caeden spoke to the University of Auckland’s Liz Beddoe about what the impact in the United States has been, and if there still could be potential ramifications here in Aotearoa.

Scrapping the census and subsequent concerns w/ the National Party’s Tom Rutherford: 24th June, 2025

Scrapping the census and subsequent concerns w/ the National Party’s Tom Rutherford: 24th June, 2025 Scrapping the census and subsequent concerns w/ the National Party’s Tom Rutherford: 24th June, 2025, 13.24 MB
Tue 24 Jun 2025

Last week, Statistics Minister Shane Reti announced plans to scrap the nationwide census moving forward. The census is the largest statistical survey done in Aotearoa, and provides the bulk of population data used in research and decision-making. Reti says the census is “no longer financially viable” and will be replaced with a combination of smaller annual surveys and administrative data. 

While the change looks good on paper, there are concerns around how the change in data collection could affect representation of marginalised and minority groups. Census data tends to be more protected from bias than administrative data and smaller surveys, meaning there are more opportunities for misrepresentation. Some statisticians are particularly concerned about the potential exclusion of marginalised rural communities. 

In our weekly catchup with the National Party’s Tom Rutherford, Wire host Castor asked him about the census decision and its implications on marginalised and minority groups.

Dear Science w/ Doctor Cushla McGoverin: 24th June, 2025

Dear Science w/ Doctor Cushla McGoverin: 24th June, 2025 Dear Science w/ Doctor Cushla McGoverin: 24th June, 2025, 29.62 MB
Tue 24 Jun 2025

This week on Dear Science, our expert, Dr. Cushla McGoverin, chatted with us about the early human subspecies of Denisovans, plants having an extra set of even deeper roots, and sea spiders farming their own bacteria.

Thanks to MOTAT, the museum inspiring the innovators of tomorrow!

Psilocybin and Melatonin, Taxpayers Funding Cancer Medicines for Private Facilities, Criticisms of ACT MP Karen Chhour regarding Bootcamps w/ the ACT Party’s Simon Court: 23 June, 2025

Psilocybin and Melatonin, Taxpayers Funding Cancer Medicines for Private Facilities, Criticisms of ACT MP Karen Chhour regarding Bootcamps w/ the ACT Party’s Simon Court: 23 June, 2025 Psilocybin and Melatonin, Taxpayers Funding Cancer Medicines for Private Facilities, Criticisms of ACT MP Karen Chhour regarding Bootcamps w/ the ACT Party’s Simon Court: 23 June, 2025, 19.28 MB
Mon 23 Jun 2025

Associate Health Minister, David Seymour, has recently announced changes to Psilocybin and Melatonin availability.

Psilocybin, the compound found in magic mushrooms, will be available for certain patients suffering from poor mental health outcomes. Melatonin, which is used for insomnia and jetlag, is set to be available over the counter.

For our weekly catchup with the ACT Party’s Simon Court, News and Editorial Director and Monday Wire Host, Joel, spoke to him about this move, and the potential accessibility concerns with accessing these medications.

They also discussed taxpayers set to be funding newly-funded cancer medicines for private facilities.

Finally, they discuss opposition parties criticised Children’s Minister, Karen Chhour, over a lack of transparency regarding the effectiveness of boot camps for youth offenders, especially as boot camps have received a boost of $30 million, despite the pilot programme still being ongoing.

But first, they discussed Psilocybin and Melatonin.

Developing amidst flood risks, Auckland Council's conflict between intensification plans and Auckland's flood plains w/ Councillor Julie Fairey: June 19, 2025

Developing amidst flood risks, Auckland Council's conflict between intensification plans and Auckland's flood plains w/ Councillor Julie Fairey: June 19, 2025 Developing amidst flood risks, Auckland Council's conflict between intensification plans and Auckland's flood plains w/ Councillor Julie Fairey: June 19, 2025, 32.67 MB
Thu 19 Jun 2025

Housing intensification is a key priority for Auckland Council as Auckland's population is forecast to reach 2.3 million by 2050. 
But as planning for growth continues, some Auckland residents have expressed concern about the approval of developments in areas on flood plains or particularly prone to natural disasters.

With Kāinga Ora selling homes as ‘high risk investments’ in areas which were impacted by flooding in recent years, and 15 percent of all granted consents for new builds by Auckland Council being on floodplains, I spoke to Councillor Julie Fairey about how the council is taking into account these issues for the coming years.

International Desk: “No Kings” Protests for Democracy in the United States w/ University of Connecticut’s Jeremy Pressman: 19 June, 2025

International Desk: “No Kings” Protests for Democracy in the United States w/ University of Connecticut’s Jeremy Pressman: 19 June, 2025 International Desk: “No Kings” Protests for Democracy in the United States w/ University of Connecticut’s Jeremy Pressman: 19 June, 2025, 17.09 MB
Thu 19 Jun 2025

Last Saturday, over 2,000 protests took place across all 50 American States against President Donald Trump. 

The protests coincided with Trump’s birthday and the 250th anniversary of the US Army, and they served as a direct response to the military parade in Washington, DC.

The organisers of the protests say they aimed to reject “authoritarianism, billionaire-first politics, and the militarisation of our democracy.”

Wire Host Caeden spoke to Jeremy Pressman, Professor of Political Science at the University of Connecticut about the protests and the backlash towards them from the Trump administration.

Scrapping the census, sick leave, and escalating tensions between Israel and Iran w/ Labour’s Carmel Sepuloni: 19 June, 2025

Scrapping the census, sick leave, and escalating tensions between Israel and Iran w/ Labour’s Carmel Sepuloni: 19 June, 2025 Scrapping the census, sick leave, and escalating tensions between Israel and Iran w/ Labour’s Carmel Sepuloni: 19 June, 2025 , 9.74 MB
Thu 19 Jun 2025

Statistics Minister Shane Reti has announced that the Census form will be scrapped and instead replaced with smaller surveys and administrative data.

Earlier this week, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon expressed openness to reducing sick leave entitlements.

And tensions between Israel and Iran continue to escalate as Israel’s war on Gaza continues, threatening global security.

For our weekly catch-up with the Labour Party, Wire Host Caeden spoke with Deputy Leader Carmel Sepuloni about both of these topics.

Weekly Catchup w/ The Green Party’s Ricardo Menendez-March: 18 June, 2025

Weekly Catchup w/ The Green Party’s Ricardo Menendez-March: 18 June, 2025 Weekly Catchup w/ The Green Party’s Ricardo Menendez-March: 18 June, 2025, 24.41 MB
Wed 18 Jun 2025

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon recently spoke to media saying that the government would announce reforms to the Holidays Act that would impact sick leave entitlements for part time workers.

Under the suggested changes, sick leave entitlements would be processed under an accrual system, meaning that part-time workers working half the hours of their full-time counterparts may only earn half of their previously entitled sick leave.

In that same week, a directive was recently given to Te Whatu Ora - Health NZ to give private hospitals 10-year outsourcing contracts to perform elective surgeries.

And earlier this week Associate Education David Seymour announced a review of the funding for early childhood education.

For our weekly Catchup with the Green Party, Oto spoke to MP Ricardo Menendez-March about all of these issues.

New tourism funding and NZ sanctions on Israeli ministers w/ the National Party's Tom Rutherford: 17th June, 2025

New tourism funding and NZ sanctions on Israeli ministers w/ the National Party's Tom Rutherford: 17th June, 2025 New tourism funding and NZ sanctions on Israeli ministers w/ the National Party's Tom Rutherford: 17th June, 2025, 13.34 MB
Tue 17 Jun 2025

Last week, Tourism and Hospitality Minister Louise Upston announced plans to double the tourism value by 2034, with increased funding to support the country in reaching this goal. The funding is primarily targeted at increasing the marketing of New Zealand tourism overseas, which has been met with mixed reactions from tourism operators in Aotearoa, many of whom have been struggling with existing tourist numbers.

Also this past week, the New Zealand government imposed sanctions on two Israeli ministers for ‘inciting extremist violence’ against Palestinians. While the move has received cross-party support, opposition parties such as the Greens and Te Pāti Māori have criticised the government for not taking further action against Israel.

In our weekly catchup with National's Tom Rutherford, Wire host Castor asked about each of these issues, beginning with the new tourism funding. 

Dear Science w/ Professor Allan Blackman: 17th June, 2025

Dear Science w/ Professor Allan Blackman: 17th June, 2025 Dear Science w/ Professor Allan Blackman: 17th June, 2025, 24.83 MB
Tue 17 Jun 2025

This week on Dear Science our expert, Professor Allan Blackman, chatted with us about characterising liquid carbon, a New Zealand led cleanup in Antarctica, and plants making their own pesticide

ACT Local candidates opposing managing emissions at local level, NZ banning Israeli MPs from visiting country, changes to proposed anti-stalking laws w/ the ACT Party’s Simon Court: 16 June, 2025

ACT Local candidates opposing managing emissions at local level, NZ banning Israeli MPs from visiting country, changes to proposed anti-stalking laws w/ the ACT Party’s Simon Court: 16 June, 2025 ACT Local candidates opposing managing emissions at local level, NZ banning Israeli MPs from visiting country, changes to proposed anti-stalking laws w/ the ACT Party’s Simon Court: 16 June, 2025, 17.07 MB
Mon 16 Jun 2025

The ACT Party has recently announced that candidates standing in local elections, if elected, will oppose attempts to mitigate emissions at a local level.

ACT Local Government spokesperson, Cameron Luxton, says council’s should “focus on what they can control,” and not “costly symbolic declarations”.

For our weekly catchup with the ACT Party’s Simon Court, News and Editorial Director and Monday Wire Host, Joel, spoke to him about this move.
We also discussed the government’s sanctions on Israel’s National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich.

New Zealand has joined countries such as the UK, Australia, Canada, and Norway, in banning Israel’s National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich over allegedly “inciting extremist violence" against Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, and “undermin[ing] peace” for a two-state solution.

Finally, we discussed changes being made to the proposed anti-stalking laws.

But first, we discussed ACT candidates opposing attempts to mitigate emissions at a local level.