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95bFM's long-running green issues feature, The Green Desk.

UN High Seas treaty is officially approved w/ Victoria University Law Professor Joanna Mossop: 23 September, 2025

UN High Seas treaty is officially approved w/ Victoria University Law Professor Joanna Mossop: 23 September, 2025 UN High Seas treaty is officially approved w/ Victoria University Law Professor Joanna Mossop: 23 September, 2025 , 21.75 MB
Tue 23 Sep 2025

Over the weekend, the United Nations High Seas treaty — also called the Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction (BBNJ) Agreement, received its 60th and final required ratification to allow it to take effect, from January 2026.

The treaty introduces historically significant measures for the protection of the ocean and marine biodiversity, especially in parts of the ocean that do not fall under the jurisdiction of a single nation.

After decades of negotiation, sixty countries have now ratified the agreement, with a further 145 countries, including New Zealand, being signatories. 

Some of the key aspects of the agreement will be the establishment of Marine Protected Areas, the introduction of legal obligations for countries to maintain high environmental standards around ocean activities, and the advancement of critical climate goals including the ban of bottom trawling and deep sea mining. 

Tuesday Wire Host Sara spoke with Victoria University law professor Joanna Mossop more about the significance of this treaty, and how effective its legal obligations on an international stage will be — starting with her research interest in international marine law

Environmental impact of Artificial Intelligence w/ University of Waikato Dr Amanda Turnbull and Layer3 Solutions Director Daniel Bohan: 16 September, 2025

Environmental impact of Artificial Intelligence w/ University of Waikato Dr Amanda Turnbull and Layer3 Solutions Director Daniel Bohan: 16 September, 2025 Environmental impact of Artificial Intelligence w/ University of Waikato Dr Amanda Turnbull and Layer3 Solutions Director Daniel Bohan: 16 September, 2025 , 49.93 MB
Tue 16 Sep 2025

This week on Green Desk, Wire Host Sara takes a deep-dive into the environmental issues surrounding the proliferation of AI technology, particularly in New Zealand.

In the context of Luxon’s recent announcement about a $7.5 billion investment by Amazon Web Services into data centres in New Zealand, alongside the rapid adoption of generative AI in sectors across the country, academics have raised concerns about the environmental impact of the growth of this industry.

Last year, University of Waikato’s Dr Amanda Turnbull co-published an article about how New Zealand is outsourcing the “risks and costs” of AI and data centres, highlighting the water and resource consumption of global reliance on data centres and AI. 

Sara spoke with Dr Amanda Turnbull about her concerns relating to AI’s environmental impact and how the New Zealand government should be responding to the ever-expanding industry.


Following the interview with Turnbull, Sara was interested in exploring how businesses are confronting the issue of AI, especially as it becomes more integral to work. Layer3’s Solution Director Daniel Bohan published an article earlier this year scrutinising the confusing data surrounding the water footprint of AI. Sara spoke with Bohan more about how businesses and consumers should engage with AI and better understand the environmental impacts. 
She start by asking about how he engaged with AI in his mahi

Tawaki Project takes a comprehensive look at New Zealand penguin populations w/ project co-leader Dr Thomas Mattern: September 2, 2025

Tawaki Project takes a comprehensive look at New Zealand penguin populations w/ project co-leader Dr Thomas Mattern: September 2, 2025 Tawaki Project takes a comprehensive look at New Zealand penguin populations w/ project co-leader Dr Thomas Mattern: September 2, 2025 , 20.37 MB
Tue 2 Sep 2025

The Tawaki Project based at the University of Otago and driven by the mahi of international researchers, has taken a deep-dive into the population genetics of three Aotearoa crested penguin species – tawaki/Fiordland penguins, erect-crested penguins, and Eastern rockhopper penguins.

Findings reveal how genetic health and marine habitat changes have impacted these species.

For this week’s Green Desk, Host Sara spoke with co-leader of the project, Dr Thomas Mattern about what the study learned about these penguin populations, starting with a general overview of the research

Ministry for Environment memo warns that NZ climate failings could impact our diplomatic relations w/ University of Auckland Associate Professor Maria Armoudian: 26 August, 2025

Ministry for Environment memo warns that NZ climate failings could impact our diplomatic relations w/ University of Auckland Associate Professor Maria Armoudian: 26 August, 2025 Ministry for Environment memo warns that NZ climate failings could impact our diplomatic relations w/ University of Auckland Associate Professor Maria Armoudian: 26 August, 2025, 25.93 MB
Tue 26 Aug 2025

A secret memo by the Ministry for the Environment intended for the central government reveals advice that New Zealand’s failures on climate action may negatively impact our diplomatic relations. 

The warning stated that, as New Zealand delays decisions and action on our commitments under the Paris Agreement, we may risk undermining our key alliances with countries like Australia, Canada, the UK and countries in Europe. 

More importantly, University of Auckland Associate Professor Maria Armoudian, director of Centre for Climate, Biodiversity and Society, says that our climate failings are reflective of a global “tragedy of the commons”, which will have urgent negative impacts for our Pacific neighbours.

For this week’s Green Desk, Sara spoke with Armoudian about this Ministry for Environment warning and how New Zealand should be seeking to improve its climate policies. 

She started by asking what her expectations and hopes are about the government’s response to this memo

Green Desk: Everybody Eats w/ Amanda Butland: 16 April, 2025

Green Desk: Everybody Eats w/ Amanda Butland: 16 April, 2025 Green Desk: Everybody Eats w/ Amanda Butland: 16 April, 2025, 6.46 MB
Wed 16 Apr 2025

Have you ever thought about what happens to all the food, which, while perfectly edible, simply doesn’t make it to the table? This week, the Green Desk delves into the growing issues of food waste, food insecurity and social isolation, and discusses how they can all be remedied by making better use of the perfectly good food that would otherwise end up in the bin. 

Everybody Eats is an organisation founded in 2017 which rescues surplus food items from charities and businesses and converts them into restaurant style food. They have a pay-what-you-can mode, with the aim of making this food accessible to all. 

Ahead of Earth Day 2025, Green Desk Producer Liam spoke to Amanda Butland, the Systems and Support Manager at Everybody Eats, about the current food waste crisis and what we could all learn from the Everybody Eats ethos.

Thanks to EcoFest!

Green Desk: Māori Medicine w/ Donna Kerridge: 9 April, 2025

Green Desk: Māori Medicine w/ Donna Kerridge: 9 April, 2025 Green Desk: Māori Medicine w/ Donna Kerridge: 9 April, 2025, 12.83 MB
Fri 11 Apr 2025

Donna Kerridge (Ngāti Tahinga, Ngāti Mahuta) is a Kaumatua with more than twenty years of experience sharing matauranga and wisdom on rongoā Māori. 

She holds a strong belief in the importance of building connections and learning from our environment as essential to maintaining and restoring our own health.

As part of EcoFest 2025, Donna will be facilitating an introductory workshop to Māori medicine, inviting participants to explore health through an Indigenous lens and learn more about the relationship between our taiao and the whenua. 

Green Desk Producer Sara spoke with Donna this week to talk more about the workshop, and how rongoā Māori can benefit health outcomes in Aotearoa. Here is that interview.

Thanks EcoFest!

The Green Desk: Bird Heros w/ BirdCare Aotearoa’s Pooja Dorle: 2 April, 2025

The Green Desk: Bird Heros w/ BirdCare Aotearoa’s Pooja Dorle: 2 April, 2025 The Green Desk: Bird Heros w/ BirdCare Aotearoa’s Pooja Dorle: 2 April, 2025, 11.36 MB
Wed 2 Apr 2025

BirdCare Aotearoa is a wild, native bird hospital that works to rehabilitate sick and injured birds back into the wild.

For their upcoming event: ‘Bird Heros,’ a part of EcoFest 2025 on the 6th of April, the workshop will look at the best practices on rescuing wild native birds, and will include a tour of their bird hospital, which is not usually open to the public.

For this week's Green Desk, Producer Leilani spoke to the Hospital Manager at BirdCare Aotearoa, Pooja Dorle, about the rehabilitation processes of birds within their hospital ahead of their next workshop.

Fellow Green Desk Producer Liam, and News and Editorial Director Joel, went to the previous workshop over the weekend, and spoke to the Chair of the organisation, Kevin Furgeson, and volunteer Marina, and had a tour of their facilities. Thanks EcoFest!

BirdCare Aotearoa also has a fundraiser running to shed light on seabirds affected by street lights and brightly lit buildings across the city, affecting their migration patterns and causing birds, such as the protected Petrels, Shearwaters, and Prions, to fall and injure themselves. To support their clinical rehabilitation practices, you can support their campaign on givealittle.

The Green Desk: The Street Art Bike Challenge w/ Brent Bielby: 26 March, 2025

The Green Desk: The Street Art Bike Challenge w/ Brent Bielby: 26 March, 2025 The Green Desk: The Street Art Bike Challenge w/ Brent Bielby: 26 March, 2025, 8.03 MB
Wed 26 Mar 2025

Ever wondered what it would be like to bike in an Art Gallery? Well now you can, for the city is your gallery. In collaboration with EcoFest 2025 and various New Zealand artists, Bike Hubs have set up a Street Art Bike Challenge. Now, anyone can ride around the city, discover amazing works of art and win great prizes. 

This week, Green Desk Producer Liam speaks to Brent Bielby, manager of EcoMatters’ Bike Hubs, a community project aimed at encouraging more people to take up cycling. He explains the goal behind the challenge, as well as how cycling can contribute to a healthy lifestyle and provide a source of freedom and fun.  

You can take part in this challenge yourself. All you need to do is take out your bike, pedal over to the artworks, and upload a photo of you and your bike. The challenge will run until the 22nd of April, and you can find a map of all the locations and trails on the EcoMatters website.

The Green Desk: Developing skills around sustainable practices and building connections with others w/ 'Chronically Ellen': 19 March, 2025

The Green Desk: Developing skills around sustainable practices and building connections with others w/ 'Chronically Ellen': 19 March, 2025 The Green Desk: Developing skills around sustainable practices and building connections with others w/ 'Chronically Ellen': 19 March, 2025, 11.07 MB
Wed 19 Mar 2025

Ellen, who operates under the pseudonym ‘Chronically Ellen’, is a digital creator, photographer and visual storyteller who utilises her skills to uplift sustainable brands through her own online business.

As part of EcoFest 2025, she is facilitating two workshops centred around developing skills around sustainable practices and building connections with others. The first involves upcycling old magazines, ‘waste’ and second hand materials to create artworks, and the second is a beginner-friendly gardening workshop which teaches participants how to grow food in containers.

Drawing on her experiences as a disabled wāhine and eco-friendly creative, Ellen speaks with Producer Sara about the importance of environmentalism and community, her workshops at EcoFest and how listeners can take small steps to make a big difference in the face of the climate crisis. Thanks EcoFest!

The Green Desk: Rammed Earth Houses w/ Paul Geraets: 12 March, 2025

The Green Desk: Rammed Earth Houses w/ Paul Geraets: 12 March, 2025 The Green Desk: Rammed Earth Houses w/ Paul Geraets: 12 March, 2025, 17.55 MB
Wed 12 Mar 2025

You’ve heard of houses made of straw, sticks, and bricks, but what about earth, chalk, and lime? The piggies have announced – rammed-earth houses are in!

To kick off Green Desk for 2025, Producer Leilani speaks to Paul Geraets, New Zealand’s most prolific rammed earth designer and builder, about the benefits and history of these sustainable houses.

You can catch Geraets' upcoming event, 'Hands on With Rammed Earth Building' as a part of EcoFest 2025; a month-long celebration of our unique environment and sustainable living across Tāmaki Makaurau from the 22nd of March to the 22nd of April. Thanks EcoFest!