The Wire with Joel

Joel Rindelaub is a research fellow at the University of Auckland, he’s currently studying applications of analytical chemistry, whether it’s environmental concerns or forensic science. Recently, he wrote a piece in Newsroom called Why Sources Matter in a Climate of Ignorance? It talked about a so-called climate expert who was not in fact a climate expert. An excerpt from the piece reads as follows: “Not only does he propagate material that misrepresents our current understanding of science, he has also displayed ethically dubious behaviour while doing so.” Lillian Hanly got Joel into the studio to have a chat and started by asking him why he wrote the piece.

This is topical because only this morning National MP Chris Penk tweeted in regards to the abortion reform legislation announcement, “Sure, we expected some changes but nothing so extreme (/cruel?) as liberalising abortion right up to birth.” Which is just blatantly incorrect. 

When questioned on this, leader of the National Party Simon Bridges told Radio NZ, ‘one person’s misinformation is another person’s fact’.

On Dear Science with AUT’s Allan Blackman we talk about rogue molecules, less money for glyphosate cancer rulings and an allegedly boring element.

Justin gives us an update on the rally at uni yesterday in solidarity with Hong Kong.

Tuwhenuaroa was out at Ihumātao this morning, and is live in studio to give us a bit of an update.

Joel Rindelaub, a research fellow here at the university, talks to Lillian about the importance of naming your sources when it comes to climate crisis research.

And Sherry speaks to Jacqui Forbes, general manager of Para Kore about waste minimisation.

Last night, police presence at Ihumātao increased significantly and completely unexpectedly. The call was made for supporters to join those on the whenua. Things had escalated and one group of protestors had been isolated from the others. Lillian Hanly was there and put this report together so people can hear and feel some of what happened over the 5 hour stand off. Whakarongo mai.

To get some context and an update from the weekend, listen here. 

Coming up on the show today!

• First up Olivia Holdsworth talks to Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage about a new action plan for biodiversity in Aotearoa.
• Next up Oscar Perress brings us up to speed with what’s going on at Ihumātao. 
• Following that, for The International Desk Justin Wong speaks to Russian student and protester Denis Leven and academic Dr Alexander Maxwell to find out more about what’s going on at the Moscow protests.
• And finally Lillian Hanly, who was at Ihumātao last night when the standoff occurred, brings us a report of her experience there on site.